Wright’s appointment to teaching position sparks giving protest

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The appointment of anti-gay bishop N.T. Wright to a post on a divinity school faculty has drawn ire from alumni, the Scotsman reports.

[Wright’s] appointment to the Fife institution’s School of Divinity has prompted a senior Episcopal clergyman to urge wealthy graduates not to support the university’s fundraising appeals.

The Rt Rev Kelvin Holdsworth, Provost of St Mary’s Cathedral in Glasgow and a St Andrews graduate, has withdrawn financial support over Wright’s “anti-gay views” and is encouraging others to do the same.

“It is hard to think of a more divisive figure to appoint. I don’t think it is to the credit of a modern university to appoint staff with such ghastly anti-gay views.”

In response to future requests for assistance, Holdsworth writes,

“The answer from now on could not be clearer. No extra funding for a university that appoints anti-gay figures to prominent positions. I hope other alumni will keep their hands firmly in their pockets and when the call comes for money, just say no.”

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Sorry could you (or the moderator) please remove your statement, especially as you have continually used my name

I'm not responsible for Episcopal Cafe's "ethic of transparency by requiring all contributors and commentators to make submissions under their real names", Don.

But seriously: believe it or not, it's even EASIER to remove your homophobia. All you have to do, is stop thinking in "other-ing" concepts like "so-called, 'gay rights,' lobby" and REMEMBER: we're just like you.

We're just like you: same joys, same sorrows, same sins, same virtues.

Same fears. Same hopes. Same doubts . . .

. . . and same anger, we when we (fairly, reasonably "objectively") experience ourselves being walked-on, or scape-goated.

All the SAME as you . . . with the same need for salvation through Christ.

Not FROM our sexual relationships, but IN them: for us to be more Christ-like wives to our wives, or husbands to our husbands.

Can't you really TRY to imagine yourself as one of us, Don, and not some other who wants to protect himself via censorship?

Like I said above, Don: you're my brother in Christ.

We're really not any different.

JC Fisher

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I don't hate you, Don (God only knows, I have PLENTY of other sins, though---Lord have mercy!)

I DO hate your homophobia {*} , however (a homophobia I dare say anyone who is NOT Don MacGill can so readily see, that I need not catalog it). And I won't stop condemning that SIN (not you, personally), just because it so evidently makes you uncomfortable that I do so.

What say we BOTH meet at the foot of the cross, pleading for mercy for our respective sins, and quit the log/splinter stuff already? You are my brother---and my fellow sinner (you simply wear your sin a little more obviously than I do---at the moment! ;-/)

J C Fischer,

Sorry could you (or the moderator) please remove your statement, especially as you have continually used my name throughout as a foil to make your accusations. I have not expressed any of my beliefs for or against homosexuality. I merely pointed out a worrying tread of intolerance from certain section of society that I find objectionable and bizarre.That doesn't mean that I am against homosexuals in any way- any more than Matthew Paris is a racist or homophobe for arguing for free speech for the BNP. I care out our society's values, and that includes the right to dissent peacefully. I find your congenial tone refreshing but I find it odd that you think anyone who makes such arguments must be because they are a homophobe. I even said 'you will win the argument because you are right'!

Don MacGill

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Dä'ved Äyan | David Allen

A slight correction in the Scotsman's article. Kelvin is not a Scotish Episcopal bishop, but the provost of St Mary's, a dean in most TEC dioceses. His correct honorific would be the Very Revd., not the Rt Revd.

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I don't hate you, Don (God only knows, I have PLENTY of other sins, though---Lord have mercy!)

I DO hate your homophobia {*} , however (a homophobia I dare say anyone who is NOT Don MacGill can so readily see, that I need not catalog it). And I won't stop condemning that SIN (not you, personally), just because it so evidently makes you uncomfortable that I do so.

What say we BOTH meet at the foot of the cross, pleading for mercy for our respective sins, and quit the log/splinter stuff already? You are my brother---and my fellow sinner (you simply wear your sin a little more obviously than I do---at the moment! ;-/)

JC Fisher

{*} Homophobia: a perfectly understandable word meaning "bigotry against homosexual people/homosexual (spousal) relations".

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Don, what do you mean, "opinion"? We're talking lives and fortunes here, not hairstyles or music choice! And what do you mean by "approval"? Might as well approve of the blueness of the sky, or the blackness of an African's skin, because homosexuality is not something to be approved or disapproved of, it just is.

Look, I had a friend who was initiated into Freemasonry a few years back, and around here in Oklahoma, some of the lodges can be tainted with racism. We both decided to withdraw from that lodge (though we both still believe in the principles of Masonry) due to hearing the "N word" a few too many times. Now my friend admits he's racist too, but said to me one of the wisest things I ever heard anyone say. He said that, yes he's racist, but he knows that's HIS problem, and not the problem of those he's uncomfortable with, and his personal distaste isn't a good enough reason to treat anyone any differently, esp. not a brother Mason, because there's lots of Masons who are black. He owns his problem, and was disappointed that Masonry hadn't improved other lodge brethren to the point of giving up the N word, when he's working so hard "smoothing his rough ashlar" so that he would be a better person.

You need to learn that lesson, Don, in regards to gay people. You, and all others who "believe" that the language of approval or disapproval is appropriate when discussing gay people, you all are those with the problem, not gay people. Personal or even collective distaste is not reason enough to treat someone differently, especially when said distastes lead to attitudes and actions that harm and hinder those you or y'all find distasteful.

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