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Presiding Bishop responds to Primates’ statement

Presiding Bishop responds to Primates’ statement

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Before I say a word about our gathering here at the Primates Meeting, I just want to say a word of thank you to you for all of your prayers: your prayers for this meeting, your prayers for me personally, both here and in my earlier sickness. We are well, and God is God, and I thank you.

Let me say a word about the meeting.

This is not the outcome we expected, and while we are disappointed, it’s important to remember that the Anglican Communion is really not a matter of structure and organization. The Anglican Communion is a network of relationships that have been built on mission partnerships; relationships that are grounded in a common faith; relationships in companion diocese relationships; relationships with parish to parish across the world; relationships that are profoundly committed to serving and following the way of Jesus of Nazareth by helping the poorest of the poor, and helping this world to be a place where no child goes to bed hungry ever. That’s what the Anglican Communion is, and that Communion continues and moves forward.

This has been a disappointing time for many, and there will be heartache and pain for many, but it’s important to remember that we are still part of the Anglican Communion. We are the Episcopal Church, and we are part of the Jesus Movement, and that Movement goes on, and our work goes on. And the truth is, it may be part of our vocation to help the Communion and to help many others to grow in a direction where we can realize and live the love that God has for all of us, and we can one day be a Church and a Communion where all of God’s children are fully welcomed, where this is truly a house of prayer for all people. And maybe it’s a part of our vocation to help that to happen. And so we must claim that high calling; claim the high calling of love and faith; love even for those with whom we disagree, and then continue, and that we will do, and we will do it together.

We are part of the Jesus Movement, and the cause of God’s love in this world can never stop and will never be defeated.

God love you. God bless you. And you keep the faith. And we move forward.

The Most Rev. Michael Curry
Presiding Bishop and Primate
The Episcopal Church


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+ Mark Aelred (Bishop, Liberal Gnostic Community)

As dissenting members of the Jesus Movement, those of us who take seriously the gospel message that Jesus had a Beloved Disciple of the same gender, we can only deplore those who think homophobia is the work and counsel of the Holy Spirit. Such condemnation of the glorious diversity of human sexuality and gender identity turns the so-called Jesus Movement into a movement of fear and hate, not of love or even justice. The ancient Gnostics who regarded Jesus as Savior were inspired to reject what they regarded as a god of hate that was informing a punative religious-politics that demanded as the primary virtue blind obedience — rather than seeking knowledge and thinking for oneself. It is to be deplored that this false god and spirit of ignorance and hate is still worshipped in so many “Christian” churches. Witness the fundamentalists who call for the death penalty for homosexuality — they workship a god they have created in their own, alas fear-and-hate-filled, image. The basic and inescapable choice is between fear and love. The way to transform whatever fear we might have is to embrace it with love. Jesus chose the way of love, and said to his friends: “Fear not!”

Stuart Kenny

I am queer. The ECUSA has lost credibility on this issue. While it’s nice to know that the ECUSA accepts homosexuality, that doesn’t mean God accepts homosexuality. There is no reason to believe, anymore, that the ECUSA has discerned God’s will on this. During the years the ECUSA had the vague, silent backing of the Anglican Communion, it seemed that the ECUSA might be onto something in terms of what God was doing. When it was sanctioned this week by the Communion, it now seems that chances are that the rest of the Communion is seeing more clearly how the Holy Spirit is leading the Church–and the Holy Spirit seems to be saying to the Catholic, Orthodox, and Anglicans that God doesn’t accept homosexual behavior.

I, as a queer, used to turn to the Episcopal Church for support for my sexuality. Now I realize I may have just been having my ears tickled by what I wanted to hear. I have to reconsider how God sees my sexuality and what He wants me to do with it without the unreliable witness of ECUSA.

Thanks for your acceptance, but I want God’s truth.

Prof Christopher Seitz

Dear Stuart

I wrote a supportive note that was not included here at the Café.

I don’t understand this kind of conduct.

But please know that you have those inside TEC who will stand with you in your journey with Christ Jesus.

One strong and charitable voice is Wes Hill. He wrote a brilliant dissertation at Durham on the Trinity in NT and is a voice of support from someone like yourself.

I hope that the Café can continue to allow more than one perspective, and the rough treatment from the commentator here should not be the lone response to you. Christ asks for more of us.

Sunday blessings in Him.

Prof Christopher Seitz

You are doing a great job, David.

Bon courage!

David Allen

You’re in France, we are a few time zones away and it’s Sunday morning, we are monitoring comments between Sunday obligations. We are just catching up on approving some comments caught in moderation. Patience, rather than back-handed insults would fare you better!

Prof Christopher Seitz

There are still parishes in TEC that promise to support you and help you on your way with Christ Jesus.

Sunday blessings, Stuart.

JC Fisher

Call yourself “queer” if you want to, Stuart (I do, too!), but that doesn’t change the fact that you’re presenting only bog-standard homophobia.

The issue isn’t “homosexual behavior” and it never was. The issue is SACRAMENTAL EQUALITY (e.g. marriage, ordination) for ALL the baptized.

After the rice is thrown at the happy newlyweds, what kind of “behavior” they engage in is between the couple and God. Period.

Applying a double-standard to different married couples on the basis of gender? That’s not queer, that’s horrible! (horribly unChrist-like)

If the “rest of the Communion” (Rome, Moscow, etc) tickles your ears, then Vaya con Dios.

Or, stay and *persuade* GC differently.

But jumping on TEC now, just because the Anglican Primates (heads of churches in places that would IMPRISON you for calling yourself “queer”, w/o a second thought!) did so , seems to me to be a really poor start in your “Nevermind your 40 years of prayerful discernment, TEC Got It All Wrong” campaign.

Chris Harwood

Considering the thousands of denominations in America, most people seem to end up in churches that reinforce their own opinions. God Bless as you continue the search, no matter where it leads. He did promise answers to those who seek wholeheartedly–one of the reasons TEC’s love of doubt, questions, and lack of conviction/answers worries me.

Paul Woodrum

Lovely words. Beautiful words. But they don’t really speak to TEC’s being bullied and shunned by the prelates nor do they indicate how Curry voted, the validity of any such action by this body nor the ABC’s passive acceptance.

Cynthia Katsarelis

This is a really beautiful statement, just beautiful. While some have productively framed our current position in Civil Rights terms, +Michael does it in theological terms, describing our possible “vocation.” I’m so happy to be in the Jesus Movement with +Michael and am eager to get on with the Jesus Work.

Rod Gillis

This article by Andrew McGowan Berkeley Divinity School at Yale, on legalities, is interesting.

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