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Archbishop of Canterbury “explains” comments

Archbishop of Canterbury “explains” comments

Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby sat down for 15-minutes with the Anglican Journal late Tuesday evening, April 8. Marites N. Sison’s article is entitled “Welby explains gays and violence in Africa remarks”. From the interview:

Q: Were you in fact blaming the death of Christians in parts of Africa on the acceptance of gay marriage in America?

A: I was careful not to be too specific because that would pin down where that happened and that would put the community back at risk. I wouldn’t use the word “blame”— that’s a misuse of words in the context. One of the things that’s most depressing about the response to that interview is that almost nobody listened to what I said; they mostly imagined what they thought I said…It was not only imagination, it was a million miles away from what I said.

Q: So what exactly were you saying?

A: What I was saying is that when we take actions in one part of the church, particularly actions that are controversial, that they are heard and felt not only in that part of the church but around the world…And, this is not mere consequentialism; I’m not saying that because there will be consequences to taking action, that we shouldn’t take action. What I’m saying is that love for our neighbour, love for one another, compels us to consider carefully how that love is expressed, both in our own context and globally. We never speak the essential point that, as a church, we never speak only in our local situation. Our voice carries around the world. Now that will be more true in some places than in others. It depends on your links. We need to learn to live as a global church in a local context and never to imagine that we’re just a local church. There is no such thing.

The interview also includes a question about a to be presented resolution changing the marriage canon to allow same-sex marriage in the Anglican Church of Canada.

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tobias haller

C. Johnson, not sure I understand what you are getting at. What I’m saying is that Welby’s over-concern about how others might react to a statement or action is unbalanced. He is operating in full neo-colonial mode, which is an over-reaction to colonialism. Deny it how he will, but he’s embracing a consequentialist ethic that is, in the end, paralyzing, and gives in to emotional blackmail. Should we give up Western education because of Boko Haram?

It was not “wrong” of the “Anglican left” to expect Gene Robinson to be treated as a duly-elected bishop of a church that is part of the Anglican Communion, because that is what he is. Nor do I believe it wrong to critique laws that violate human rights in other countries, though I always think we should look to our own laws first, and tread lightly where we have only rather recently reformed out own past bad behavior.

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For once, I agree with Harwood – cut them off, including the ones who rah-rah them on here in TEC. Let the dead bury the dead. Smaller, purer, better led. That’s what we need, not a pathetic clinging to a sad, brutal and unholy parcel of politicos.

– Mark Brunson

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Enough.

Enough with this clown car of a “communion.”

It’s simply old Etonians still playing at Empire. I refuse to acknowledge any connection to the CofE and its self-serving agenda. Welby sounds just like Ryan, or McConnell or Boehner. “I don’t hate gays, I just don’t not hate them!” Add to that the disgusting bigotry toward us American peasants that has been so clearly, clearly manifested in this and the last ABC, and I see nothing remotely resembling a church to belong to.

It’s time to throw the theological tea in the harbor, guys.

– Mark Brunson

Chris H.

If you want people to believe that the Anglican communion is not one church, then first, stop using their members to bolster TEC’s small size. Every time a website–church(including this one),diocese(including this one), or national–or a newspaper article trots out that “70 million member” bit, you’ve announced it’s all one. TEC doesn’t count all the other churches it’s in full communion with in its size, so stop including the other Anglicans. Second, stop pushing the idea that a bishop in one part of the communion is a bishop in all of it. TEC doesn’t like their bishops and several of TEC’s bishops are an outrage to those in other parts of the world.

Chris Harwood

Murdoch Matthew

There is no such thing as a local church, Mr Welby? The church is the people, gathered together. Everything above the parish is administration. Welby must be going by England, where most people ignore the church, which is top-heavy with clergy and administrators.

People keep pointing out that there is no Anglican church — the communion is an association of individual, autonomous provinces united by common worship and communion with Canterbury. Gender issues seem to have inspired the drive to politicize the communion and give its instruments an authority they haven’t possessed. Growth at the top doesn’t compensate for weakness at the roots. Welby may just topple the whole plant.

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