Albany bishop draws red line, challenges authority of GC

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In a pastoral letter to his diocese, the Bishop of Albany has stated his refusal to live within Resolution B012 (Marriage Rites for the Whole Church) passed at General Convention last summer. The resolution, is scheduled to take effect on Advent 1 of this years and the pertinent sections are in resolves seven and eight;

“Resolved, That under the canonical direction of the Rector or Member of the Clergy in charge and where permitted to do so by civil law, provision will be made for all couples desiring to use these marriage liturgies in their local congregation or worshipping community, provided that nothing in this Resolve narrows the authority of the Rector or Priest-in-Charge (Canon III.9.6(a)); and be it further

Resolved, That in dioceses where the bishop exercising ecclesiastical authority (or, where applicable, ecclesiastical supervision) holds a theological position that does not embrace marriage for same-sex couples, and there is a desire to use such rites by same-sex couples in a congregation or worshipping community, the bishop exercising ecclesiastical authority (or ecclesiastical supervision) shall invite, as necessary, another bishop of this Church to provide pastoral support to the couple, the Member of the Clergy involved and the congregation or worshipping community in order to fulfill the intention of this resolution that all couples have convenient and reasonable local congregational access to these rites; and be it further…”

In his pastoral letter (read it all here), Bishop Love of Albany wrote of his opposition to the resolution both at General Convention and continuing until now;

“When B012 was presented to the House of Bishops at the 79th General Convention, I both spoke and voted against it, sharing my concerns, all to no avail. A few weeks ago, I met with the Presiding Bishop, the Most Reverend Michael Curry, to once again share my concerns regarding B012 and the tremendous damage I believe it will cause not only in the Diocese of Albany, but throughout The Episcopal Church and wider Anglican Communion”

Bishop Love has decided to draw a line based on his personal beliefs and understanding of his role on behalf of the entirety of the diocese of Albany; “B012 ignores God’s Word regarding marriage and thus ignores the authority of Holy Scripture.” He lays the blame for General Convention’s actions squarely on Satan and the “Gay Rights Agenda.”

“While I don’t question the sincerity or the well intentions of many in the Episcopal Church who believe the best way to love and minister to our Gay and Lesbian Brothers and Sisters in Christ is to embrace them in their sexuality and make provisions for their same-sex attractions through same-sex marriage rites, I do believe they have been deceived into believing a lie that has been planted in the Church by the “great deceiver” – Satan. In his letter to the Ephesians, Paul states: “…stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.” (Ephesians 6:11-13).
The Episcopal Church and Western Society have been hijacked by the “Gay Rights Agenda” which is very well organized, very strategic, very well financed, and very powerful. Satan is having a heyday bringing division into the Church over these issues and is trying to use the Church to hurt and destroy the very ones we love and care about by deceiving the leadership of the Church into creating ways for our gay and lesbians brothers and sister to embrace their sexual desires rather than to repent and seek God’s love and healing grace. B012 plays right into this.”

The bishop closes out his lengthy list of justifications with a pastoral directive to disallow implementation of B012, setting himself and his diocese in direct contravention of the will of the wider church as expressed through General Convention;

“Until further notice, the trial rites authorized by Resolution B012 of the 79th General Convention of the Episcopal Church shall not be used anywhere in the Diocese of Albany by diocesan clergy (canonically resident or licensed), and Diocesan Canon 16
shall be fully complied with by all diocesan clergy and parishes.”

 

 

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JoS. S Laughon
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The good bishop made the mistake in thinking it is 10 years ago and all this talk of the "comprehensiveness" of TEC was serious and not a play at power. There's a new Conformity Act in town and you will be made to conform.

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Gwen Palmer
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Gwen Palmer

I don’t see how the bishop is being required to conform. He is welcome to follow his conscience. Defining conformity as his not being able to prevent others from following their own consciences is a very wrong concept of “conformity.”

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Paula Wade
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Paula Wade

This saddens me greatly, and it troubles me - what does this action imply to the Church itself? Can this action stand? And if it does stand, does it invite any other Bishop on the losing side of a controversy to do the same? I am sure the Most Revd. Curry will continue to respond lovingly to this Bishop and to the needs of his Diocese, but in terms of the polity of the Church, this is a highly corrosive action. Can someone enlighten me on what can be done about this??

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Philip Gumbs
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Philip Gumbs

I would be believe that all responders to this article are aware of other groups that are beginning to demand their rights as the lgbt have succeeded in doing. So when the Most Rev Currys capitulate to them from a distorted belief that God is all mushy love, a belief that ignores that He is equally holy and a consuming fire, Hebrews 12:29, will the Bishop Loves be vilified by people like yourselves as well?

Is there anything that is intrinsically sinful, or are you antinomians? Heterosexuals aren’t automatically going to heaven. Only those who repent of their sins and serve the holy God who sent His Son in love to redeem all who would receive His grace.

Truth is irrespective of the voice of the church or the decree of bishops. The majority has generally sided against truth, thus the opposition to prophets, true believers and Christ. They were killed because the majority saw them as being “hateful”, “harsh”, “hurting people’s feelings”.

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Gwen Palmer
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Gwen Palmer

No one who has weathered the difficulties of life and family in a marriage would ever view marriage as an expression of “mushy love” for one another, or mushy love of God for His people. Committed, covenantal marriage is a whole lot more like that holy fire, and any two people who walk together through the often gut-wrenching challenges of it, and meet those challenges better because of their partner’s love, know that their marriage, SS or man/woman, is blessed by God. Some things are intrinsically sinful. That kind of courage and commitment isn’t one of them.

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Daniel English
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Daniel English

If any bishop would work to create division and turn people away from the love of God due to their views they should be removed. There is no separate God for anyone. If you speak in your pulpit and pray in your pew that there is only one God. There can be no dispensing shares of God's love. The same God who loves the heterosexual also loves the homosexual. It is no different than saying God favors man over woman, white over black, and etc. Acting as if the nature of God is anything but loving and life-affirming is an affront to the gospels.

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Philip Gumbs
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Philip Gumbs

The loving Jesus said, “Go and sin no more lest a worse thing happen to you.” The loving Jesus also said, “...but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil”. Unlike the “anything but love and life-affirming” god you believe in, the Jesus of the gospels said, “You are of your father the devil”. “Hateful” fellow, eh?

The loving Jesus said, “many false prophets shall arise and deceive many”. “So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth and sever the wicked from among the just.” Guess we need to delete those words or explain them away.

Let’s not create a jesus after our own sinful image. He is who He is - loving, holy, “loves righteousness and hates iniquity”

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Cynthia Katsarelis
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I believe that we do know the false prophets by their fruits. The church's homophobic language has contributed to LGBTQI teen suicide, LGBTQI homeless kids who are outcasts from their homes and subject to abuse like human trafficking, hate crimes, discrimination, depression and a host of difficulties. Ugly fruits.

Salvation is up to God and God does not need hateful gatekeepers.

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Suzette Reynolds
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Suzette Reynolds

I have to wonder whether people who fear the "gay agenda", and think marriage must not be allowed for same-sex couples, keep kosher. Do they wear only clothing made with one fiber?

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Philip Gumbs
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Philip Gumbs

The gay agenda is showcased in the BBC news clip of a UK teacher requiring all her 6year old students to write a marriage proposal letter from the prince to his male (actually there are 50+ genders now according to the infallible lgbt) servant whom he loves.

The gay agenda encourages preschoolers to question their gender and seek hormonal treatment asap. The gay agenda teaches 6 year olds how to masturbate.

Parents who object to any such indoctrination are pronounced bigoted, oppressive and harmful to their own children.

Strange that the gamblers, drunkards, adulterers, fornicators, liars, thieves, drug dealers, ad infinitum, don’t scream out that to oppose them is hate speech, but these people, 85% of who were molested as children and need compassionate help - not rights - throw tantrums that make a toddler envious as they scream “haters!”.

We all have sinned and rather than defending it we need to humbly repent of it.

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Cynthia Katsarelis
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The "gay agenda" is to live in dignity and justice as children of God, created in the Image of God, just like you. "Indoctrination" is not a "gay agenda." People are born as we are. Are you perhaps mistaking "indoctrination" for tolerance?

There's no gay conspiracy to convert children or anyone else. That is simply paranoia and that's why homophobia is a phobia. This is a great illustration.

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Philip Gumbs
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Philip Gumbs

Get the facts. Google “BBC six year old UK kids taught to write gay letters.” So many instances in Canada, USA, UK, etc.

Get the facts. Please produce scientific support for “born that way”. Not feelings, please, just cold facts. No such scientific support exists. None whatsoever. The most recent, most comprehensive scientific research is conclusive.

Fact: Anal sex is 30 times more risky than vaginal sex. Fact: 80% gays/lesbians were molested as children. The church must have a compassionate approach. But compassion is not the same as acceptance of lifestyle. Jesus told the woman caught in adultery, “Neither do I condemn thee. Go and sin no more”

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Cynthia Katsarelis
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Fact, more heterosexual couples practice anal sex than gay couples. No, we weren't mostly molested as children, but I have seen others spew that fake news. The science that we are born with our sexual orientation is readily available.

So now you're trying to use pseudo-science to justify what Scripture doesn't. 40 years of learned and prayerful discernment, combined with my lived experience, is not going to be overturned by these lame excuses.

When I think about the contributions of gay people throughout history, Michelangelo, Leonard Bernstein, Alan Turing, gazillions of artists and musicians, and then look at the ignorance that is required to justify homophobia - I'm going with the talent.

I'd leave it there except you need to know that your language contributes to misery and even death. I'm sorry that it is a problem to accept the diversity of God's Creation, but that's no excuse for spewing words that inflicts pain on others.

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Philip Gumbs
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Philip Gumbs

So you don’t “spew”. Only those who disagree with you “spew”.

“An estimated 90% of men who have sex with men and as many as 5% to 10% of sexually active women engage in receptive anal intercourse” WebMed. (It could be as high as 30 percent of heterosexuals.)

Lawrence S. Mayer, Paul R. McHugh
This report presents a careful summary and an up-to-date explanation of research — from the biological, psychological, and social sciences — related to sexual orientation and gender identity. It is offered in the hope that such an exposition can contribute to our capacity as physicians, scientists, and citizens to address health issues faced by LGBT populations within our society.
Some key findings:
Part One: Sexual Orientation
● The understanding of sexual orientation as an innate, biologically fixed property of human beings — the idea that people are “born that way” — is not supported by scientific evidence.

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Philip Gumbs
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Philip Gumbs

The New Atlantis
Sexuality and Gender
While there is evidence that biological factors such as genes and hormones are associated with sexual behaviors and attractions, there are no compelling causal biological explanations for human sexual orientation. While minor differences in the brain structures and brain activity between homosexual and heterosexual individuals have been identified by researchers, such neurobiological findings do not demonstrate whether these differences are innate or are the result of environmental and psychological factors.
● Longitudinal studies of adolescents suggest that sexual orientation may be quite fluid over the life course for some people, with one study estimating that as many as 80% of male adolescents who report same-sex attractions no longer do so as adults...
● Compared to heterosexuals, non-heterosexuals are about non-heterosexuals are about two to three times as likely to have experienced childhood sexual abuse.

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Cynthia Katsarelis
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Scientific American "Beware Bogus Theories of Sexual Orientation," 12/1/16 https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/beware-bogus-theories-of-sexual-orientation/

The New Atlantis is not a peer-reviewed journal. So again, you are using extremely sketchy sources to confirm your bias. And don't throw Johns Hopkins University at me, two of my degrees sport JHU on them.

Again, a really lame excuse to be hateful to others.

Just an update to note that " journal's co-publisher, the Ethics and Public Policy Center (EPPC), “dedicated to applying the Judeo-Christian moral tradition to critical issues of public policy.” That isn't science.

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Philip Gumbs
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Philip Gumbs

Like the true prophets who were despised and killed for their stand for truth so is this bishop. The arguments for SS “marriage” are the supremacy of love, human rights, dignity and consenting adults. “All Love Is Equal” screams the lgbt battle slogan. So you who indignantly support SS “marriage” obviously support polyamorous (group) marriage, parent child “marriage”, brother brother “marriage” (half siblings “marry” in Sweden) as well. To oppose is inherently hypocritical for their arguments are the same. Besides, “Jesus never addressed it”.

Reality check: there’s absolutely no scientific basis for homosexuality. Sorry, but the earth is not flat. Stunned by this but undeterred, lgbt scientists are now declaring that homosexuality and transgenderism are based on feelings that must be honoured above all else.

According to your reasoning, to oppose fornication and adultery is mean and hateful because love is all that matters. Your god is 1 dimensional and anti-biblical

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Bruce Alan Wilson
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Bruce Alan Wilson

All other species that form long-term pairbonds have same-sex couples. How can something be unnatural if it occurs in nature?

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Philip Gumbs
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Philip Gumbs

Many species eat their young offspring. They also mate with them and with siblings. I humbly suggest we don’t derive our cues or norms from the animal kingdom. Interesting to see how many will dislike this....

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