Are women dangerous?

Spiegel reports on the results of Norway's mandate that private corporate boards have a quota of at least 40 percent women. The law went into effect in 2004 and has is subject of a study by Aagoth Storvik and Mari Teigen of the Institute for Social Research in Oslo:

Storvik told SPIEGEL ONLINE that there was something of a "Norwegian paradox" at play in her country, which is often regarded as one of the best places in the world to be a woman. She explains that while there had long been many women in politics and a moderate number of female managers in the public sector, when it came to the private sector, "we were rather low down the list in Europe." The fact that board members are usually drawn from top managers lead to a low percentage of women on the company boards, with only 6 percent in 2002. "So we didn't have the best point of departure when the reform was introduced."

When politicians proposed the measure in Norway, it sparked a massive public debate -- with opponents saying that such positive discrimination would be unfair to men and that private companies should be given the freedom to appoint whichever candidates they preferred to their boards. Another common argument held that more competent men would be replaced with less skilled or qualified women.

Yet since the law was introduced there have been no complaints from employers associations, nor have CEOs stated that they have had problems finding suitable candidates for the board. ...

... Some also feared that companies would be forced to appoint sub-standard members to their boards, but that hasn't happened either, Storvik and Teigen found. In fact, their study revealed that 36 percent of female board members had a university education lasting six years or more, compared to just 22 percent of their male counterparts. And it is also not the case that a few women are hoarding many positions across numerous company boards. The report found, in fact, that male board members typically had more memberships than their female colleagues.

Meanwhile, Anglican Mainstream screams ANDROGYNY IS DISTRESSING SOCIETY. The megaphone for CoE General Synod member Chris Sugden quotes with approval these thoughts of Julian Mann:

The women bishops' debate at the General Synod sparked a discussion on this morning's ... BBC Radio Sheffield...

It is worth reflecting on the damage feminism, and the behavioural androgyny to which it has given birth, has inflicted on British society since the 1960s:

• House prices have become unaffordable for many because of the impact of double incomes. The pre-1960s practice of women being required to give up their jobs when they got married certainly helped to keep house prices lower in relation to average incomes.

• Social and financial pressure on young mothers to return to work causes distress to themselves and denies babies and toddlers proper emotional engagement with their mothers at a crucial developmental stage. Institutional supervision is no substitute for a mother's love.

• Young women growing up are increasingly without positive female role models resulting in an upsurge of teenage pregnancy, binge drinking and the laddette culture. In pre-1960s' Britain mothers were substantial figures with significant moral authority.

• Marriage has been destabilised because men are being discouraged from giving a lead and women are being discouraged from taking one.

• British society is less capable of producing outstanding women such as Margaret Thatcher and Mary Whitehouse, who were products of Christian Britain.

• The education system has been skewed against boys in favour of girls. This is going to cause huge social problems in the disenfranchisement of young men in employment, in family life and in wider society in the future.

Comments (5)

Dear Episcopal Cafe

May we draw your attention to the words on the front page of www.anglican-mainstream.net.

"Anglican Mainstream does not necessarily endorse the content of external internet sites."

Your reference to quoting this article,as of any article from an external site with approval is therefore wide of the mark.

Yours sincerely

Chris Sugden

Well, LahDeeDah!

I haven't read Storvik and Teigen on the Norwegian board quota law, but I have read Ahern and Dittmar's paper, and it suggests there were fairly significant negative consequences in the short run:

http://webuser.bus.umich.edu/adittmar/NBD.2010.03.28.pdf

There's also a fairly long-running thread in the business press about what are called the "golden skirts," the small group of women who hold most of the board positions in key companies in Norway.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6965ce58-5944-11de-80b3-00144feabdc0.html

I'm strongly in favor of more women on corporate boards -- both here and in Norway. And the long-run effects of the law may indeed be positive. (I hope so.) But the study you quote seems to have some methodological problems and runs against what I've seen about the short-run effects of the law.

Also not sure what the relevance is to Anglicanism, where the argument for women bishops is and must be grounded in good theology, not analogies to women in professional work. Women can and are called to be bishops because the alternative draws us into really questionable ideas about human nature that are not Christian.

Chris Tessone

Thank you for the references, Chris Tessone. It's always neat when a post catches the eye of someone familiar with a relevant area of research.

The Financial Times link hardly seemed negative on women on boards. And on the point of whether a handful of women hold most of the seats seems to contradict what is presented as a fact in the paper covered by Spiegel. Not sure where that leaves us.

March 2010 UMich paper finds "The constraint imposed
by the law resulted in a significantly negative impact on firm value, consistent with the idea that firms choose boards to maximize value. The value loss was not caused by the sex of the new board members, but rather by their younger age and lack of high-level work experience." That confirms what I would have guessed, contrary to the anecdotal based arguments in the paper I referenced.

Regarding whether analogies between professions and the calling of the cloth I consistent hold that findings for one can apply to the other - the clergy are not somehow unique. One of the things that implies is that we should not expect that even in most of inclusive of environments, it will be a while before there are more than a few women who are bishops in the CoE -- unless they apply differential standards for age and experience. They've only been ordaining women since the 90s.

Chris Sugden, I'm not sure whether you a disassociating yourself from the content of that post or not.

But we know we didn't hear from you when we listed these gay bashing stories linked at Anglican Mainstream. Nor did has it been explained why the retired Drexel Gomez (of the Anglican Covenant group) is listed as the primatial advisor of AM.

http://www.episcopalcafe.com/lead/anglican_communion/an_occasion_for_gay_bashing_an_1.html

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