How Hitchens sees Christians now
Christopher Hitchens, one of the chief critics of any faith in God, has now become enough of a celebrity that he is regularly appearing in Christian churches debating about the existence of God. As such he's starting to revise his opinions about Christians as a body. He's not a convert at all. He just thinks that one has to recognize that there's a broader spectrum to Christian belief than he had previously thought. Oh, and he doesn't like Calvinists. Or "mealy-mouthed" liberal Christians.
From an essay on Slate:
I haven't yet run into an argument that has made me want to change my mind. After all, a believing religious person, however brilliant or however good in debate, is compelled to stick fairly closely to a "script" that is known in advance, and known to me, too. However, I have discovered that the so-called Christian right is much less monolithic, and very much more polite and hospitable, than I would once have thought, or than most liberals believe. I haven't been asked to Bob Jones University yet, but I have been invited to Jerry Falwell's old Liberty University campus in Virginia, even though we haven't yet agreed on the terms.Wilson isn't one of those evasive Christians who mumble apologetically about how some of the Bible stories are really just "metaphors." He is willing to maintain very staunchly that Jesus of Nazareth was the Christ and that his sacrifice redeems our state of sin, which in turn is the outcome of our rebellion against God. He doesn't waffle when asked why God allows so much evil and suffering—of course he "allows" it since it is the inescapable state of rebellious sinners. I much prefer this sincerity to the vague and Python-esque witterings of the interfaith and ecumenical groups who barely respect their own traditions and who look upon faith as just another word for community organizing. (Incidentally, just when is President Barack Obama going to decide which church he attends?
Usually, when I ask some Calvinist whether he is really a Calvinist (in the sense, say, of believing that I will end up in hell), there is a slight reluctance to say yes, and a slight wince from his congregation. I have come to the conclusion that this has something to do with the justly famed tradition of Southern hospitality: You can't very easily invite somebody to your church and then to supper and inform him that he's marked for perdition. More to the point, though, you soon discover that many of those attending are not so sure about all the doctrines, either, just as you very swiftly find out that a vast number of Catholics don't truly believe more than about half of what their church instructs them to think. Every now and then I read reports of polls that tell me that more Americans believe in the virgin birth or the devil than believe in Darwinism: I'd be pretty sure that at least some of these are unwilling to confess their doubts to someone who calls them up on their kitchen phone. Meanwhile, by any measurement, the number of those who profess allegiance to no church (I am not claiming these as atheists, just skeptics) are the fastest-growing minority in America. And don't tell me that warfare increases faith and that there are no unbelievers in foxholes: Only recently I was invited to a very spirited meeting of the freethinkers' group at the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs, Colo., where there has been a revolt against on-campus proselytizing by biblical-literalist instructors.
Interesting points he makes there at the end. Especially with respect to the rapidly growing numbers of skeptics. Does the Episcopal Church's presentation of the Gospel have a chance of changing this trend?

I just clicked on the article and found that it is written by Christopher Hitchens (the other popularizer of atheism these days, who is also British). Anyway, thanks for posting it. I live in one of the most secular cities in the country, and am hearing both Dawkins and Hitchens quoted all around me.
Posted by Sarah Lawton
|
October 26, 2009 9:22 PM
Sarah,
Thank you. We have changed the reference...
Peter Carey+
Posted by petermcarey
|
October 26, 2009 9:37 PM
I think The Episcopal Church is particularly well positioned to take on the skeptics. We are a church committed to putting out faith into action in a hurt and broken world. We are a creedal church with ancient traditions but we have a variety of expression of those traditions. I commend to you the you tube video posted by Lisa Fox to her blog which gives the Presiding Bishop's answer to "Why should I become an Episcopalian?"
http://my-manner-of-life.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-be-episcopalian.html
All that being said, the way we present the Gospel is as wide and varied as the different points of view on social issues and theology in our church, and those views inform our presentation. I am not saying that we should change the presentation(s) themselves, for our diversity of thought is one of our greatest strengths, but we may want to give some thought to the how.
I would also dare to say that one of our issues is that there is huge reluctance to reach out beyond our parish doors and bring people in, rather we tend to wait for them to show up. We are a church full of passionate people who are passionate for the Gospel, but we tend to only show our passions with those already on the inside.
IMHO.
(Editor's note: Thanks. We need your name next time.)
Posted by the Reverend boy
|
October 26, 2009 9:53 PM
Considering how much of the proverbial Kool Aid Hitchens has swallowed courtesy the Neo-Cons the past decade, to hear him favor Fundies over "mealy-moutheded liberal Christians" is hardly surprising.
JC Fisher
Posted by tgflux
|
October 26, 2009 11:26 PM
Makes some sense to me that Hitchens poo-poos metaphor and "mealy-mouthed liberal Christians" and prefers a conservative, more literalizing Christianity.
It is so much easier to refute this way.
But Christian faith does not live solely in the doubtless plane of two-dimensional pseudo-scientific biblical literalism. It lives, too, in a three-dimensional world of metaphors, questions, poetry, music, sacrament, moral inspiration, and spiritual encounter with the living Christ. (Isn't this what we offer in The Episcopal Church when we are at our best?)
Until Hitchens is willing to view these realities more than as mere measurable chemical reactions in our central nervous system, it strikes me that no argument on these terms will convert him.
But I have to say it is intriguing that he remains willing to engage the discussion. Is he seeking something?
Posted by The Rev. Richard E. Helmer
|
October 27, 2009 12:36 AM
To address the question posed at the end, I think the Episcopal Church, at its best, is well situated to speak to skeptics. I think Hitchens underestimates the role of skepticism in faith. Very often it is the questions we wrestle with that lead us deeper into faith, not out of it. The Episcopal Church (again, at its best) is one of the safest places I know to wrestle with questions of faith and doubt because it does not insist on a "my way or the highway" approach to faith and allows for faith as a personal journey. That's one of the main reasons I am an Episcopalian.
Lois Wye
Posted by Lois
|
October 27, 2009 7:59 AM
I was raised in a peculiar Christian faith that placed a huge emphasis on proselytizing; it was important in that Christians alone possessed "The Truth" and they alone were the "true" Christians. Only "true" Christians would then be spared the imminent threat of everlasting destruction. And "true" Christians did NOT include abominations like oh, I don't know, me? I don't miss those Saturday morning door-knockings/magazine giveaways one bit!
Besides, it's been my belief that people don't convert people--the Holy Spirit does. Our job is to be there for them when it happens. (Unless, of course, the converters in question are invading armies with a sword in one hand and a holy book in the other. That works, too.)
Doug Curlin
Posted by hduggie
|
October 27, 2009 4:04 PM