Why won't ACNA say it is wrong to put gay people in prison?

Archbishop Robert Duncan was given an opportunity yesterday by Cathy Grossman of Religion News Service to say that he did not support Uganda’s harsh new anti-gay law, which not only penalizes people involved in same-sex relationships, but also people who have knowledge of same-sex relationships and do not report them to the authorities.

The U. S. government and every major human rights group have publicly opposed the bill, but Archbishop Duncan, leader of the Anglican Church in North America couldn’t bring himself to do it.

Instead, along with some of the African archbishops who supported the Ugandan bill and others like it, he recently signed a statement decrying the western backlash against the legislation.

The Anglican Church in North America is led by a man who was so deeply offended by the ordination of a gay bishop that he decided to break away from the Episcopal Church and take tens of thousands of other people with him, but who is comfortable with church leaders who have successfully urged their governments to round up LGBT people and their supportive friends, and put them in jail.

For years, breakaway Anglicans have tried to downplay the role that simple anti-gay bigotry has played in their movement. They’d say that they didn’t hate gay people, they just didn’t think they should be able to be ordained or married. Or they’d say that homosexuality was just one symptom of the Episcopal Church’s drift from Biblical truth. Duncan’s unwillingness to say in a simple and straightforward way that he doesn’t think gay people and those who do not inform on them should be put in jail gives the lie to these arguments, as does the obsession with homosexuality evident in statements from the GAFCON primates council.

What we are seeing now is a comfortable white American religious leader who cannot bring himself to say that it is wrong to throw LGBT Africans in jail because he doesn’t want to offend the African archbishops who have been his allies.

Duncan is in a bind. On one hand, the bogus claim that the Anglican Church in North America is part of the Anglican Communion depends entirely on its relationships with Anglican provinces led by archbishops who support anti-gay legislation. On the other hand, ACNA’s leaders in this country know that their church won’t survive if its homophobic roots and willingness to countenance human rights violations that advance its institutional interests become widely known. His strategy at the moment seems to be to sign on to homophobic documents that circulate widely within the Anglican Communion while hoping that the U. S. media and the wider public doesn’t notice.

It is important, especially in places with strong breakaway movements such as Pittsburgh (Duncan’s former diocese), Fort Worth and South Carolina, that Episcopalians make it clear just how extreme Archbishop Duncan is willing to be.

It is also important that LGBT people and their allies keep asking ACNA and its leaders whether they would support an American version of the anti-gay laws that are supported by their allies in Uganda and Nigeria. If they do not support imprisoning LGBT people and those who refuse to inform on them in the United States, why do they refuse to say that they oppose the imprisonment of such people in Africa?

(For background on the ways in which African archbishops have worked with Duncan and other clergy who broke away from the Episcopal Church, read the "Barfoot memo" of 2004, Stephen Bates' 2004 reporting on the strategy of anti-gay Anglicans to break up the Episcopal Church and force it out of the Anglican Communion and my 2006 article Following the Money.)

Comments (10)

Let us get finished nailing down the ACNA's Bob Duncan, deposed TEC bishop of Pittsburgh, on his schismatic cult=Gafcon opinion on JAILING GAYS (our families and friends too)! Never forget
Duncan/accomplices are ALL about rooting out the evil of LGBTI Anglicans/others for OUR own good at Church! Gafconners insist on putting a STOP to the damning/degenerate influence of the Gay people disease amongst the purer folks in Africa/beyond!

NEXT UP let's interview Justin Welby, Archbishop of Canterbury (again). Justin Welby cuddles up to the notion that loving LGBTI in Africa or anywhere else may be equal to sudden death and massacres (perhaps he doesn't know about ++Peter Akinolas bloody caper in Yelwa which was not ¨gay¨related).

I ask you, what kind of mitred *religiouslike* men, and they are men, at GAFCON, GLOBAL SOUTH and the Church of England, are we giving terrortime too? Chatting with bigots/worse while simultaneously inquiring about spiritual direction? Insanity?

These men are opportunists and cowards/worse. Some of them are clearly lightingered, dim-witted and grandstanding as they pontificate while standing on the backs of their fellow human beings/citizens.

There is no place left to hide from the doubletalking reasoning that has revealed itself at various blood stained corners of the Anglican Communion.

Dangerous purge-thirsty hatemongers are more than simple trouble makers at Church.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the inciting of anti-gay pogroms in society is being done by those who grandstand and receive stained ¨hush¨ money to thrive.

These are the Anglicanos who create misery for millions at the Anglican Communion!

I have no respect for their opinions on anything!

Perhaps the reason why he willsay it is wrong to put LGBT people in jail is beacuse he does not think it is wrong?

*there should be a "not" between will say (which should have had a space). Sorry

I don't know, Jim. Maybe Dunc's just playing that "local context" card you guys played so often around 2003. At any rate, has the Episcopal Church officially broken communion with Uganda yet?

As I've said many times, this sort of thing should come as no surprise. Just look at the fabrications from the ACNA crowd, the ploy in South Carolina and here in VA, dating back to prior to the split to defraud TEC of its assets and to claim that somehow the ACNA crowd is made up of "victims?"

Even the whole thing where ACNA claims to be part of the Anglican Communion when, in fact, it is a few provinces within the Communion that recognize it is flagrantly deceptive. Then, of course, there's this bit about "Anglican orthodoxy" when conformity has always been about worship, not belief. Queen Elizabeth I even said, "I have no desire to have windows into the hearts of men." Yet the GAFCON crowd wants that and more--they want to be judge, jury, executioner and yes, jailer.

Have no doubts about the intent of the GAFCON crowd. Their goals are morally repugnant, pure and simple.

I am afraid that I do not even think that former bishop Duncan's motives are as good as biblical doctrinal purity over LGBT issues. I had a conversation with a certain person who knew Duncan well who related that Duncan had as his objective a break all along. The "gay thing" was just a means to an end. The quote was that Duncan had noted that they had failed to get a new separatist church over the ordination of women, but that the LGBT problem would likely allow them to get it. He was right. Just like SC, it was planned and staged long in advance. It was not about principles, it was about using people to get something that he/others wanted. It is not about principles, it is about power and control and influence. Their exploitation of the African homophobia is just another tool for them. Their hypocrisy will be their undoing in the end, of course. The more Danegeld that they pay, the more they will have the Danes with them. Mostly, I just hate how easy it is to lump us all together with the power-mongering haters. It is not just bad for us in the church, but all of those who truly need to church but are outside of it. It is horrible to endorse homicidal madness in Africa. It is also horrible to drive people away from the true church by heinous and infamous actions and words.

Well, Christopher, regarding African poligamy, American Episcopalians are willing to allow for “local context.” After all, while we disagree with it, it does not entail the murder or imprisonment of fellow Christians. The African anti-gay laws are completely different, and the con evo Gafcon crowd are total hypocrits.

Kurt Hill
Brooklyn, NY

Christopher Johnson, do you really believe there is an equivalence between TEC's ordination of Gene Robinson and the Ugandan government's church-supported campaign against LGBT Ugandans -- that it's all just a matter of "local context"? If so, I think you should go shopping for a new moral compass; your current one is malfunctioning badly.

"At any rate, has the Episcopal Church officially broken communion with Uganda yet?" (Christopher Johnson)

Christopher, TEC cannot break communion with Uganda because we are not in communion with them directly. We are in communion with Canterbury which makes us in communion with Uganda.

The first Instrument of Unity, which is the ABC, is how we are all interconnected.

Is ACNA making its followers aware of this?

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2014/04/224431.htm

We are deeply concerned that a U.S.-funded health clinic and medical research facility, the Makerere University Walter Reed Project (MUWRP), was raided by Ugandan authorities on April 3, leading to the arrest of one of the facility’s employees, allegedly for conducting “unethical research” and “recruiting homosexuals.” While that individual was subsequently released, this incident significantly heightens our concerns about respect for civil society and the rule of law in Uganda, and for the safety of LGBT individuals.

The MUWRP is engaged in efforts to improve public health and save lives. The Ugandan government is responsible for protecting all of its people, and attacks and intimidation of health care workers are unacceptable. The safety of health workers must be respected. We have temporarily suspended the operations of MUWRP to ensure the safety of staff and beneficiaries, and the integrity of the program.

Add your comments

(If you haven't left a comment here before, you may need to be approved by the site owner before your comment will appear. Until then, it won't appear on the entry. Thanks for waiting.)

Reminder: At Episcopal Café, we hope to establish an ethic of transparency by requiring all contributors and commentators to make submissions under their real names. For more details see our Feedback Policy.

Advertising Space