A disciple-making church?

By Kathleen Henderson Staudt

Over the altar at Virginia Seminary, where I teach, are the words from Mark 16:15. “Go into all the world and preach the gospel.” (“proclaim the good news to the whole creation” is how the New Revised Standard Version has it.) These words have inspired generations of people called to the ordained ministry of word and sacrament. But as one of the people called to the ministry of teaching in and beyond the church, I find myself drawn, this ascensiontide, to Matthew’s version of the Great Commission, and I wonder what the church would look like if we spent more time reflecting on what Jesus might have meant here. In Matthew 28: 19-20, he says “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

A lot of the literature I’ve seen on stewardship and congregational development seems to focus on attracting more members to our congregations, through programs that meet perceived needs: it’s about “marketing” the church. Young adult ministries, I’ve noticed, focus some energy on encouraging vocations, but often that means raising up young people to be the next generation of ordained ministers in the church. But I have been wondering what we would look like as a church, as congregations and schools and communities, if we focused more energy, not so much on selling the church or attracting new members, but on “making disciples” of the people who come in our doors, and the seekers who inquire about us. What might this call to “make disciples of all nations” mean in our time and culture and in the current theological climate?

The term “discipleship” is probably associated, for some of us, with more evangelical and fundamentalist traditions and “making disciples” primarily with overseas mission, often associated with cultural conservatism. But I believe it’s a term that we in the Episcopal/Anglican tradition should be reclaiming, reframing, and considering in light of our tradition and the culture surrounding us. Brian McLaren, in A Generous Orthodoxy, moves in this direction as he seeks a very Anglican-sounding “generous third way” between Evangelicals’ preoccupation with a personal savior and liberals’ with modern culture. He writes of how he muddled for some time over how to describe the mission of the Church, moving from the familiar language of Evangelicals in his description of the church. He tells how he started with formulaic language: the church’s mission is to make “more Christians and better Christians.” But on reflection he tweaked it further, moving to “To be and to make disciples of Jesus Christ” and then “To be and to make disciples of Jesus Christ, in authentic community, for the sake of the world.” I like his movement away from labels to the affirmation of discipleship as part of our communal identity and our work in the world. And I like the language of discipleship better than language about “the ministry of the laity” (much as I revere the work of Verna Dozier and others of her generation) because it gets us out of ecclesiastical categories back into Biblical language that describes the shared mission of everyone in the Church. How do we understand discipleship in our time? That’s the question we should be asking together, regardless of office or vocation within the structure of the Church.

The idea of discipleship also gets us back to the concept of our faith as something we practice – the great insight of Diana Butler Bass’s influential work. Jesus tells his followers to make disciples of all nations – i.e. not only the Jewish community that they know but ALSO all nations: this is for everyone. And it’s about observing what he commanded. Love your neighbor as yourself; pray; teach, heal, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, seek forgiveness and reconciliation; look at the world through the lens of one who can say “blessed are the poor/ blessed are the meek.” This is not about convincing people to be like-minded or to join-up, nor is it a self-help project, about “becoming a better person.” Rather, the idea of discipleship gets to the heart of who Jesus is or wants to be for us. It moves us beyond worrying about the shape of institutions and back to a focus on the mission that Jesus has promised to support, if we try to follow him: “I am with you always, to the close of the age.”

What would the Church look like if we thought of “disciple-making” as our core purpose, in adult formation programs, in seminary education, in worship? The language of the baptismal covenant and baptism service in the prayer book provides some good language for this, in our tradition – though somehow or other the “ministry of the baptized” has been relegated to a category that goes with “not called to ordained ministry,” in many discussions in seminaries and vocation/formation programs. (Sometimes implying a contrast between the ministry of the ordained and the ministry of the baptized, as if the ordained were not baptized!) But discipleship: that’s something we all share, whatever office we’re called to in the church – it’s something we can reflect on within our tradition and also across denominations. How might the vision of a “disciple-making church” transform and refocus our work, worship and teaching? A question to reflect on as we approach the Feast of Pentecost.

Dr. Kathleen Henderson Staudt keeps the blog poetproph, works as a teacher, poet, spiritual director and retreat leader in the Washington DC area, and teaches courses in literature, theology and writing at Virginia Theological Seminary and the University of Maryland, College Park. She is the author of two books: At the Turn of a Civilisation: David Jones and Modern Poetics and Annunciations: Poems out of Scripture.

Comments (5)

Great stuff! I think you're absolutely right--forming disciples is the core mission of the church. In trying to wrap words around what this means one of my mentors has always gone to biblical language and uses the Pauline phrase: "transformation according to/into the mind of Christ".

As Anglicans, we have a perfect ready-made tool to help us in this formation and transformation: the Book of Common Prayer. I'm convinced that active, engaged, informed participation in the liturgy is one of the cornerstones of discipleship.

Great stuff!

Since I am a young adult, I am going to give you my two cents on the young adults ministries.

To some extent, I agree with you. I think there's a fine line between a young adult who just wanna be an active member in his/her church and a young adult who is considering ordained ministry as his/her career. For me, I belong to the first category. I believe that it takes a special person with the right combination of skills and intangibles to consider a career in ordained ministries. The main thing holding me back is that I know I don't have a lot of freedom in terms of where I serve... since I am Chinese. I really minded that because I am actually more comfortable with a non-Chinese, non-Asian church than a Chinese church, which I found out when I was doing my church relocation thing.

However, I would say that's its actually beneficial for me to talk to people who are considering ordained ministry as their vocations. It would actually be a privilege for me to have them as my role models. Then, I would try to learn from them so that I can be a role model for others.

All in all, I think the young adult programs are perfect in their current state. It's just that for some people like me, the system for ordained ministry vocation is just not perfect on some aspects, even though it's nobody's fault.

- Bill Wong

The biggest challenge I face as a 40 year old priest is convincing 75 or 80 year olds to take my discussions of discipleship seriously. After all, they've been church members since way before I was even born! They've served on committees, put countless hours into church bazaars, folded countless bulletins, been nice to their neighbors, taken a casserole to their friend when Ill, and a host of other forms of service.

Now I come in and tell them that things are changing, that we live in a post-Christian world, and that we need to get serious about discipleship. "Serious?" they say. "We've been here much, much longer than you have. Who are you to tell us what serious discipleship is?"

I guess what we need to do, among other things, is to recognize that folks who have been in the church for decades in many ways have been serious about discipleship, even if even they don't know it. How to honor that and yet help them strive for more is the challenge.

I agree that the question of discipleship is critical. “Laity,” is an unfortunately empty term since, as you note Kathy, we define it essentially as what priesthood, diaconate and episcopacy are not. Discipleship is our calling as human beings within which “priest”, “deacon” and “bishop” (as well as “episcopalian”) are broad categories, which are useful, or misleading, depending on how we negotiate them.


If we focus on the idea of making disciples, then we might say that the task of the Church is discernment and formation. Unfortunately, in the Church today, we seem to have reduced discernment (or at least communal discernment) to the question of whether a given disciple fits the broad categories of “priest”, “deacon” or “bishop.” Upon answering that question, communal discernment seems to withdraw. The individual is then left alone to figure out how to live out his or her discipleship, whether within or outside of those categories.


What would happen if we committed ourselves, in an intentional way, to being a community of ongoing discernment and formation? What if we shaped traditions, at the congregational and diocesan level, to support, challenge and guide all of our members (including, but not limited to, folks who wear collars) in answering the ongoing question, “where is God calling me now?”

I agree with you, Peter. I definitely think that the ongoing question is a one-size-fit-all question that every Christian would be asked over and over again at various stages of their spiritual lives, whether the person is ordained or not.

As for my answer to that question, I would say I am trying to feel for my boundaries, in terms of what lines I can cross and what lines I can't cross for being a Chinese Episcopalian equipped with knowledge about Chinese ministry but in a non-Chinese, non-Asian Episcopal Church. (I had formally decided to do this at the start of this year.)

In truth, I felt like I am between a rock and a hard place. On one hand, I consider myself a pretty Americanized Chinese Episcopalian. I wanted to completely blend in to my new church community. On the other hand, some of the clergies in the Chinese ministry community said that I would be a cornerstone for the future of Chinese ministry. The fact that I wrote a progress report that helped the community define who they are made me feel like I have to do what I preached, which can be very difficult or impossible in my surroundings. Because of that, I had struggles deciding I should show my American side, Chinese side, or some combination of the two at church more often than not. After all, it's not only the matter of discipleship, but also the clash of culture and expectations.

All in all, I think quite a bit of people could have some sort of ideology clash as they are doing their discipleship. How they would deal with the clashes would be depending on the individual and/or circumstances.

- Bill Wong

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